20.5.06

attributes

extension and mind

given Spinoza's presuppositions we have to assume
mind as co-extensive with
extension

or as Spinoza put it - the mind as the idea
of the body

the obvious difficulty is that most of nature does
not display mental properties

from Spinoza's point of view - as a matter of logic
mind is infinite and everywhere

now one way around this is to accept the metaphysical
argument - mind - as infinite and everywhere

but to argue that as such it is not obvious - apparent

and there is plausibility here

- as such we do not observe mind - (as we do extension)
in ourselves and others

so why should it be any different - with other
manifestations - modes of substance?

another way of putting it is to say we do not observe
knowing

so - how do we - know?

how do we know that we know?

how do we know mind?

the only answer here I think is that mind is its own
explanation

and you could say here - well this is no explanation

perhaps so -

and if mind is without explanation

this is not too far from Spinoza

if we were to say - well what is extension? - it's
own explanation -

what answer is this?

this is not to paint Spinoza as a sceptic -

just to say that from his point of view

what is - is

and extension - is - what it is

it is not reducible - or explainable -

for Spinoza the thing is to understand it correctly -

to operate within its logic

to think and act in terms of its logic

my own view is that for Spinoza substance is the
backdrop for what is

the concept a necessary given - what is - what exists

Spinoza comes at it from the top down -

but this is just an argument about what is necessary
for unity - for homogeneity -

and of course any metaphysics must get this right

diversity it would seem - must be an outcome -
a manifestation of unity

the question always is how?

at base Spinoza's answer is - that there is no diversity
- just manifestation -

pretty straightforward really -

but for mind -

unless you argue mind is a fundamental - manifestation
(attribute)

perhaps -

mind is - just not observable

- it is - as we know it - the inside of the world -