17.9.05

mental and physical

objectification
subjectification

two events?

yes - Mi a thought that leads to Pi a physical event

and the argument Pi an expression of Mi

so two events

one subjective
one objective

i.e. the thought of reaching for a glass

the actual reaching

one an expression of the other

yes

two events

the thought the act

the connection -

brain activity?

both brain events

an explanation
yes

for a common ground

but different kinds of events still -

one an event of intention - whatever this comes to in
brain states

the other an event of action - of movement

and both events - known

the knowing - where does this fit in?

I know I intend
I know I move my arm

both events covered by -

instances of knowing

a third event?

the intentional state is known in its occurrence

it could not be intentional - and not known

the act of movement known too - in occurrence?

yes I think so

the knowing accompanies both events

knowing as a brain state - yes

how though do we characterize it? (brain state of not)

it is an open state

a general condition of any conscious act -

it is not ontologically confined

it doesn't just happen under specific conditions

it is a general condition

this knowing

and further

it is by its nature revelatory

we know - we know

which is to just say we know

such is knowing

it is knowing in a particular sense

but its basis is universal and unbounded

we know
and know that we know
and we know that we know that we know

etc.

knowing as an open state

all inclusive

of the object
of the subject

knowing - cannot be exhausted

there is no boundary

so knowing - or consciousness if a brain state -
is the brain state in which all specific acts of
knowing take place

the brain state idea - is really a metaphor for
grounding events

giving of common ground to all disparate conscious
(and by implication) non-conscious events

in a way it's rather quaint

for we only know 'in consciousness'

we do not observe it

if a brain state we could never know it as such

we could only place it - alongside some picture
of brain activity and argue a co-relation

this kind of knowledge is hypothesized

and frankly arbitrary - it can be no other way -

for we can't step out of consciousness to see it

it is the seeing

a world outside of this is by definition - unknown -
unknowable -

what we know is what we are conscious of

in this sense we can only be conscious of_________

we are not conscious of what consciousness is

only that it is

and to suggest otherwise is rather absurd