19.4.06

Spinoza's perception

on Spinoza's view the mind is both perceiver
and perception?

we perceive mind as an attribute of substance

we perceive with mind

now if all that is being asserted here is that
mind exists - OK

the thing is what kind of perception is this?

we can say that the mind is aware of itself -

but does it perceive itself?

how can the subject be its own object?

this of course is the problem of consciousness

still it's worth asking this kind of question

the mind's awareness of itself is

awareness of itself as subject

this it seems is contained in the concept of awareness

awareness here it seems cannot be further analyzed

mind is this

so

so does it make any sense to speak of mind as aware
of itself

awareness aware of awareness

is what -

awareness

so - an argument that

logically speaking

the mind - is not an object of awareness

whatever is the object of - awareness -
is outside the mind

so - the dichotomy - mind / matter

(matter as - whatever is outside)

and as to the nature of it all

we know mind
we know matter

and you could take an expressionist-metaphysical
line and say

mind and matter are expressions of -

the totality -

but as to the totality

we can't assume anything

we can talk about what we know

and beyond that (if there is a 'beyond that') -

is what we don't know -

clear cut