21.4.06

substance and attribute

substance expresses itself - which is to say it exists -

as part of this we see - perceive - substance

from - substance - that is as modes of it -

(there is actually no other position - even God?

what can God see on this view?

one would think the totality sees nothing

for it is the total

only a part can see the whole - or see into it

God or nature simply exists

hence the point of view of eternity - is no point of
view at all

except perhaps - poetic)

we perceive the world from the world - in the world -
what we perceive is what is - though not all of what is

(on this view there is an argument that the totality
is not cannot be perceived)

what we perceive - are attributes of substance - existence -
characteristics

extension and mind

attributes - that make up - that are - the mode - we are

we perceive our own characteristics

the body is a form of matter

the mind - of thought

still a question -

does thought recognize thought?

do I perceive another mind - with my mind - as it were -
directly?

interesting -

I for one think this is so

but while space / matter is obviously everywhere

thought is not obviously so -

the problem for parallelism

God / nature - the totality - expresses itself in these
attributes

do we have any reason to think there are other attributes?

Spinoza says - yes otherwise God / nature is limited

but this is really no argument -

what if the world is just extension and thought?

it appears so at least -

and that these attributes are infinite?

still the limit of two attributes - expressions

yes

but saying there are an infinity of attributes -

does away with the limit of attributes

but to what consequence?

what is substance other than its attributes -

infinite number or not?

Spinoza says attributes are perceived essences

attributes are thus what we know

beyond that is what we don't know

Spinoza of course would not have wished to concede to
scepticism

and it is his avoidance of this reality

that has led to his theory of substance

instead of accepting that we don't know what we don't know

Spinoza says - reality is infinite

for all intents and purposes -

the unknown