the point is here
the place of not-knowing - is a place of peace
and this is the natural resting place of consciousness
it is too - no diversion from reality - no manufacture
of other worlds -
or indeed no inauthentic move or act of bad faith
this is a place of truth
the problem of falsity - is the problem of knowledge
in the sense that - it is only the belief that I know -
that leads to metaphysical contortion - or indeed perversity
true - we cannot and do not live in a state of ignorant bliss
this is not the point
it is rather that - we move further from the natural state -
the natural metaphysical state - with each claim of knowledge
indeed to negotiate this world - we must know
assume knowledge -
assume it as a tool - a functioning necessity -
the difficulty arises when the means is confused with end
the torture of minds - the disarray and chaos of political
implementations is finally a result of 'belief in'
modern life - for that matter ancient - is the war of knowledge
- the epistemic war
we have no guarantees - no final solutions to being
being is not that which can be defined - let alone -
the next step - resolved
it is not a problem
it is just the space of the mind and its object (the world)
still we do have the capacity to step back
to shed our reasons - to begin again
this is the core of renewal - the possibility of change -
the chance of clarity
it is an option that presupposes a metaphysical humility
which is nothing more than recognizing
the truth of the absence of knowledge
it is the great business of un-learning -
and in so doing - knowing
you do not need to sit in a certain way - to breath evenly
and deeply - read sacred texts - make offerings - sacrifices
to gods - or live a good life
you just need to think
and to realize - all thinking is without foundation
all action without end
this is the resting place
Skeptikos is a philosophical journal by Greg. T. Charlton. (c) Copyright: 2005. All rights reserved. Killer Press.
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23.8.06
relief
the fact of consciousness
consciousness is known as immediate - only on reflection
this is the base paradox of consciousness
immediacy is a product of reflection -
to understand this requires a higher order reflection -
reflection on consciousness as such
consciousness as the object of consciousness
here is found the self
this though is no solution to the dilemma of how the
immediate is not immediate - it is just a restatement
of it in terms of the self - the immediate self a
construct of reflection?
consciousness comes off here as essentially - irrational -
as it were the stuff - we begin with - before reason
analysis is the task set for - this 'urstoff' -
and here - the metaphysical origin of hope -
a belief that consciousness can resolve itself - of paradox -
this though is really the attempt - the belief -
to make consciousness - what it is not
we have as a consequence - the notion of science -
empirical science
the world as one dimensional - and out there
this is all very well - depending on how it is viewed
the physical world - the surface world - is indeed -
out there
the fact is though - it is only known - from the inside
and you cannot resolve the dilemma of consciousness -
by projection
projection and denial
consciousness into the surface - and denial of the internal
this does not work - at least on an intellectual level -
and for this reason -
it cannot even be sustained imaginatively -
you cannot be rid of consciousness
the question then is why?
why does such a matter arise -
does it?
well at the least it can - and much of human activity -
if not all can be regarded as a response the problem of
consciousness - reconciling itself - to what?
to itself -
the thing is we don't know what this would be - what it
could be - what it would look like
and every attempt at it is futile -
we cannot step outside - and see
so what is to be done?
I think there is only relief
no solution - no resolution
and relief - from the paradox of being - is not I think
necessarily good or bad
it is an option
a question of how to be -
explore the paradox - or seek relief
and of this relief?
my hunch is immersion -
and immersion in consciousness -
immersion in activity -
reflection will always be - to some extent -
a dimension of any act
the secret I think is to minimize reflective experience -
to as it were weight activity in favour of the non-reflective
the immersion of self in self
be clear this is not knowledge -
this is relief - metaphysical / psychological -
and I think the moment of delight
everyone should indulge
at least - to refresh - before going back to the fray
and the great secret of it all is there is no secret -
any pursuit can be - to varying degrees - non-reflective
it is - for children - as natural as the day
for adults - not as easy
mostly it requires some discipline - the learning of how
to enjoy
spontaneously - non-reflectively - non-critically
it is learning - how to un-learn -
so even here - a possible resolution - or what I call relief -
presupposes - paradox
no escaping - only moments of not-knowing
consciousness is known as immediate - only on reflection
this is the base paradox of consciousness
immediacy is a product of reflection -
to understand this requires a higher order reflection -
reflection on consciousness as such
consciousness as the object of consciousness
here is found the self
this though is no solution to the dilemma of how the
immediate is not immediate - it is just a restatement
of it in terms of the self - the immediate self a
construct of reflection?
consciousness comes off here as essentially - irrational -
as it were the stuff - we begin with - before reason
analysis is the task set for - this 'urstoff' -
and here - the metaphysical origin of hope -
a belief that consciousness can resolve itself - of paradox -
this though is really the attempt - the belief -
to make consciousness - what it is not
we have as a consequence - the notion of science -
empirical science
the world as one dimensional - and out there
this is all very well - depending on how it is viewed
the physical world - the surface world - is indeed -
out there
the fact is though - it is only known - from the inside
and you cannot resolve the dilemma of consciousness -
by projection
projection and denial
consciousness into the surface - and denial of the internal
this does not work - at least on an intellectual level -
and for this reason -
it cannot even be sustained imaginatively -
you cannot be rid of consciousness
the question then is why?
why does such a matter arise -
does it?
well at the least it can - and much of human activity -
if not all can be regarded as a response the problem of
consciousness - reconciling itself - to what?
to itself -
the thing is we don't know what this would be - what it
could be - what it would look like
and every attempt at it is futile -
we cannot step outside - and see
so what is to be done?
I think there is only relief
no solution - no resolution
and relief - from the paradox of being - is not I think
necessarily good or bad
it is an option
a question of how to be -
explore the paradox - or seek relief
and of this relief?
my hunch is immersion -
and immersion in consciousness -
immersion in activity -
reflection will always be - to some extent -
a dimension of any act
the secret I think is to minimize reflective experience -
to as it were weight activity in favour of the non-reflective
the immersion of self in self
be clear this is not knowledge -
this is relief - metaphysical / psychological -
and I think the moment of delight
everyone should indulge
at least - to refresh - before going back to the fray
and the great secret of it all is there is no secret -
any pursuit can be - to varying degrees - non-reflective
it is - for children - as natural as the day
for adults - not as easy
mostly it requires some discipline - the learning of how
to enjoy
spontaneously - non-reflectively - non-critically
it is learning - how to un-learn -
so even here - a possible resolution - or what I call relief -
presupposes - paradox
no escaping - only moments of not-knowing
2.8.06
reasoning and doubt
reasoning is essentially a process of intellectual
embrace - and integration
its characteristics are elegance simplicity unity
it requires nothing but clear thought
and the clear operation of thought
this process does not require input from the world -
outside of mind
in fact successful thinking requires an internal -
not external focus
reasoning is the mind at work
at work with itself
experience?
shall we say the raw stuff of reasoning?
yes
that which is to be identified - categorized -
formalized - in short organized
if you wish the point of reasoning -
it is that which comes to us - presents as un-reasoned
one's conceptual world is defined by reason
the appearance of new experience - of phenomena
perhaps not new in kind - rather 'in res' - in the act -
is always a challenge to the given conceptual arrangement -
and the question is embrace or rejection
or a change in the conceptual view -
the world view
this may simply mean - something like a change of
priority in principle
or perhaps a change of principle
indeed possibly the introduction of a new way of seeing
and hence new status to dominant ideas - and their
relations
for always everything is presented - comes before the
court of conception -
and is decided upon one way or another -
if absorbed - it is absorbed - either as presented -
or as modified
a balance is always looked for
the stability of the system - always a presupposition
of reason
we might think that with a comprehensive enough conceptual
scheme
nothing is a threat to the order of knowledge
this is indeed the rational quest - to find such - an all
embracing - and final comprehensiveness
and to hold to it - in a rational security -
everyone from your bigot to your free thinker falls in here
the point is -
there are no guarantees -
and this is the true beauty of experience
that experience is essentially - undefined - quite anarchistic -
even in the face of reason and its constructions
constructions which by the way are as thin as air
platforms based on nothing designed to hold everything
(no wonder we don't have much luck)
this may be too harsh -
the basis is finally need - no matter how we dress it up
the complexity of need is the story of reason
(need it seems on first acquaintance to be quite discreet -
and definable - even eminently manageable - this however
is only the illusion of anguish
need is without origin or end
it is a desolate wind in a desolate place)
even so - the thing is - it is quite foolish to hold too
hard to one's epistemic framework
to one's deepest held beliefs
(you need a sense of humor here - it is a metaphysical
necessity - for survival in the face of collapse)
true - a core is the fact of it - in the day to day
dealings of motion and breadwinning
however it is a core based not on some extra-experiential
foundation -
it is a core based on function
we maintain whatever view we have - so long as it serves
what we regard as our most important concerns
(to do otherwise - to persist in a belief or belief system
in the face of its failure to address our central issues -
is to court disaster
run the risk of ruin - mental and physical
it is epistemologically speaking - in severe form -
the origin of madness)
always wise to regard doubt - doubt of self -
and of course the world -
as the first principle
(this is how you breathe)
here I suggest is true openness
as a guiding - thought
embrace - and integration
its characteristics are elegance simplicity unity
it requires nothing but clear thought
and the clear operation of thought
this process does not require input from the world -
outside of mind
in fact successful thinking requires an internal -
not external focus
reasoning is the mind at work
at work with itself
experience?
shall we say the raw stuff of reasoning?
yes
that which is to be identified - categorized -
formalized - in short organized
if you wish the point of reasoning -
it is that which comes to us - presents as un-reasoned
one's conceptual world is defined by reason
the appearance of new experience - of phenomena
perhaps not new in kind - rather 'in res' - in the act -
is always a challenge to the given conceptual arrangement -
and the question is embrace or rejection
or a change in the conceptual view -
the world view
this may simply mean - something like a change of
priority in principle
or perhaps a change of principle
indeed possibly the introduction of a new way of seeing
and hence new status to dominant ideas - and their
relations
for always everything is presented - comes before the
court of conception -
and is decided upon one way or another -
if absorbed - it is absorbed - either as presented -
or as modified
a balance is always looked for
the stability of the system - always a presupposition
of reason
we might think that with a comprehensive enough conceptual
scheme
nothing is a threat to the order of knowledge
this is indeed the rational quest - to find such - an all
embracing - and final comprehensiveness
and to hold to it - in a rational security -
everyone from your bigot to your free thinker falls in here
the point is -
there are no guarantees -
and this is the true beauty of experience
that experience is essentially - undefined - quite anarchistic -
even in the face of reason and its constructions
constructions which by the way are as thin as air
platforms based on nothing designed to hold everything
(no wonder we don't have much luck)
this may be too harsh -
the basis is finally need - no matter how we dress it up
the complexity of need is the story of reason
(need it seems on first acquaintance to be quite discreet -
and definable - even eminently manageable - this however
is only the illusion of anguish
need is without origin or end
it is a desolate wind in a desolate place)
even so - the thing is - it is quite foolish to hold too
hard to one's epistemic framework
to one's deepest held beliefs
(you need a sense of humor here - it is a metaphysical
necessity - for survival in the face of collapse)
true - a core is the fact of it - in the day to day
dealings of motion and breadwinning
however it is a core based not on some extra-experiential
foundation -
it is a core based on function
we maintain whatever view we have - so long as it serves
what we regard as our most important concerns
(to do otherwise - to persist in a belief or belief system
in the face of its failure to address our central issues -
is to court disaster
run the risk of ruin - mental and physical
it is epistemologically speaking - in severe form -
the origin of madness)
always wise to regard doubt - doubt of self -
and of course the world -
as the first principle
(this is how you breathe)
here I suggest is true openness
as a guiding - thought
1.8.06
stepping out
I have suggested that the concept of concept cannot
be used in an unrestricted sense
the point is we cannot have a concept of everything
if so Spinoza's concept of substance cannot be
legitimately put -
the idea of everything does not discriminate
what else is there?
what else that is to distinguish everything from?
the problem with this is that it puts in doubt any
discussion of the totality - of the universal
I think we can say that - though we cannot conceive
everything
we can speak of everything in a negative sense
as that which cannot be conceived -
and what is this?
the conception - of - what cannot be conceived
is what -
not really a conception
it is rather the - negative of concept
can we entertain the negative of concept?
that which is outside of concept - is to recognize the
limits of conception
this is essential to the idea of a concept
that is on a meta level
what is in - what is out
I think this is OK -
it doesn't help Spinoza though
he wants substance as a positive conception
not as that which is outside of conception
so in my view - all such positive representations -
are misrepresentations
and another way to see it is to say a concept is always
within a domain
what of the domain
can we conceive domain?
yes - in a sense - domain is defined by the concept -
within it
a concept of x -
the domain of x?
-x?
yes
-x may be the subject of another concept - y
and the domain of y?
-y
so there is no logical limit to conception
the domain of a concept is just its negative
for Spinoza there is no not-substance
therefore the concept of substance is not within a domain
it has no domain
therefore it cannot be formed
Spinoza wants to argue that the concept of substance
is the foundation concept
good idea
except that the concept - that concept cannot be formed
is illogical
and the point is there is no foundation concept
of any kind
there cannot be
no ultimate concept
'ultimate' is stepping over the mark
stepping out of the game
the delusion of stepping out of reality and looking back
the God delusion
perhaps
the mistake of thinking
a negative asserts
be used in an unrestricted sense
the point is we cannot have a concept of everything
if so Spinoza's concept of substance cannot be
legitimately put -
the idea of everything does not discriminate
what else is there?
what else that is to distinguish everything from?
the problem with this is that it puts in doubt any
discussion of the totality - of the universal
I think we can say that - though we cannot conceive
everything
we can speak of everything in a negative sense
as that which cannot be conceived -
and what is this?
the conception - of - what cannot be conceived
is what -
not really a conception
it is rather the - negative of concept
can we entertain the negative of concept?
that which is outside of concept - is to recognize the
limits of conception
this is essential to the idea of a concept
that is on a meta level
what is in - what is out
I think this is OK -
it doesn't help Spinoza though
he wants substance as a positive conception
not as that which is outside of conception
so in my view - all such positive representations -
are misrepresentations
and another way to see it is to say a concept is always
within a domain
what of the domain
can we conceive domain?
yes - in a sense - domain is defined by the concept -
within it
a concept of x -
the domain of x?
-x?
yes
-x may be the subject of another concept - y
and the domain of y?
-y
so there is no logical limit to conception
the domain of a concept is just its negative
for Spinoza there is no not-substance
therefore the concept of substance is not within a domain
it has no domain
therefore it cannot be formed
Spinoza wants to argue that the concept of substance
is the foundation concept
good idea
except that the concept - that concept cannot be formed
is illogical
and the point is there is no foundation concept
of any kind
there cannot be
no ultimate concept
'ultimate' is stepping over the mark
stepping out of the game
the delusion of stepping out of reality and looking back
the God delusion
perhaps
the mistake of thinking
a negative asserts
concept
the point is whether a concept is something or nothing
just how to define concept -
is any thought a concept or does a concept have a formal
status -
so we can say what is - what is not -
what it does - what it does not do?
Spinoza says only that we know the mind in an active
and passive modes
a concept - or the formation of concept is an active
function of mind
(E.pt. II. def. III.)
beyond this Spinoza has I think nothing specific to say
on the logic of concept
my argument is that a concept at the very least defines -
if you like a class of entities
and that therefore you cannot have a concept that does
not discriminate -
and for this reason -
you cannot have a concept of everything
it's a false concept - regardless of how you define it
therefore the concept of substance cannot be formed
just how to define concept -
is any thought a concept or does a concept have a formal
status -
so we can say what is - what is not -
what it does - what it does not do?
Spinoza says only that we know the mind in an active
and passive modes
a concept - or the formation of concept is an active
function of mind
(E.pt. II. def. III.)
beyond this Spinoza has I think nothing specific to say
on the logic of concept
my argument is that a concept at the very least defines -
if you like a class of entities
and that therefore you cannot have a concept that does
not discriminate -
and for this reason -
you cannot have a concept of everything
it's a false concept - regardless of how you define it
therefore the concept of substance cannot be formed
Spinoza would argue
Spinoza would argue that his concept of substance -
is not just a theory about the idea of concept
he might well agree that you cannot have a concept of
'no concept' - or a concept that denies concept -
he would say this is not what he is on about
his argument? - that the idea of substance is not an idea
about the logic of concept - but rather about the nature
of reality -
that the real question is about the object of the concept -
it is the object that is limitless - not the concept -
so perhaps here for Spinoza a distinction between the
concept of substance and substance
but how does Spinoza establish the existence of the object
of the concept -
how does Spinoza establish the existence of substance?
his argument is that substance is conceived through itself -
a conception that is not dependent on any other conception
so what is its basis - and how does it come about?
my point is - in terms of Spinoza's definition of substance -
there is no object of consciousness
that which is outside of it -
Spinoza states just this
so it is a conception conceived through itself
if this - I say it is a theory about concept
and then my argument of the previous post follows
but it is true Spinoza is not just - putting a theory
of concept here
in fact I think he thinks he is not doing this at all
in this he is mistaken
he thinks he is making a substantial claim
a claim of substance
that his concept - of substance - just does - correspond to
- a non-conceptual reality
that this concept - when understood - is understood to refer
to - what it refers to -
in fact Spinoza argues that the concept itself entails
existence
so if you have a concept of limitlessness and it is well
formed - logical
what it refers to - must as a 'fact of logic' - exist
so there is a confusion here - in Spinoza between logic
and existence
logical statements do not refer to what exists -
they are statements of the relations of ideas
Spinoza comes back here and says -
yes but ideas exist -
yes but do they exist as Spinoza would have it -
as extended things do - out there - objectively -
or are they rather just the way we think about -
what is out there - objectively?
is not just a theory about the idea of concept
he might well agree that you cannot have a concept of
'no concept' - or a concept that denies concept -
he would say this is not what he is on about
his argument? - that the idea of substance is not an idea
about the logic of concept - but rather about the nature
of reality -
that the real question is about the object of the concept -
it is the object that is limitless - not the concept -
so perhaps here for Spinoza a distinction between the
concept of substance and substance
but how does Spinoza establish the existence of the object
of the concept -
how does Spinoza establish the existence of substance?
his argument is that substance is conceived through itself -
a conception that is not dependent on any other conception
so what is its basis - and how does it come about?
my point is - in terms of Spinoza's definition of substance -
there is no object of consciousness
that which is outside of it -
Spinoza states just this
so it is a conception conceived through itself
if this - I say it is a theory about concept
and then my argument of the previous post follows
but it is true Spinoza is not just - putting a theory
of concept here
in fact I think he thinks he is not doing this at all
in this he is mistaken
he thinks he is making a substantial claim
a claim of substance
that his concept - of substance - just does - correspond to
- a non-conceptual reality
that this concept - when understood - is understood to refer
to - what it refers to -
in fact Spinoza argues that the concept itself entails
existence
so if you have a concept of limitlessness and it is well
formed - logical
what it refers to - must as a 'fact of logic' - exist
so there is a confusion here - in Spinoza between logic
and existence
logical statements do not refer to what exists -
they are statements of the relations of ideas
Spinoza comes back here and says -
yes but ideas exist -
yes but do they exist as Spinoza would have it -
as extended things do - out there - objectively -
or are they rather just the way we think about -
what is out there - objectively?
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