12.12.06

mind cannot be conceived

that which is in itself

and is conceived

through itself

it seems for Spinoza

substance exists separate from
any conception of it

any conception of it occurs in it

and any such conception is of it

so how can a conception be in and of?

in and of one in the same thing

surely it is impossible to conceive of something
that is not separate from the conceiving -

from that which does the conceiving?

if we argue mind is subjectivity

it's object is that which is outside of subjectivity

that which is objective

we may choose to think of mind as an object

but perhaps this is just a fact of language

of grammar - of the structure of grammar

once realized - we need to drop the concept of mind
as object

I prefer reflectivity as it is not object-like

but rather operative - an operation - an action
so a conception is a subjective - focus

which is defined by what it includes - and what it excludes
a subjective definition pure and simple

for this reason substance as that which has no negative - no outside

on my view cannot be conceived

cannot be conceived - and cannot be conceived through itself

any conception must be outside of that which is conceived

if it is not outside - it simply cannot be conceived

on this view mind can never be regarded as co-extensive with the external world

it is always within - it cannot be otherwise

the world is outside of mind

mind is in the world

and so

mind cannot be conceived

for it is not outside of itself

yes