4.2.07

mind / body

the goal in all of this is to find some unified account

yes - it's all mind in the end - no - sorry it's matter

the real problem here is not one of substance - it rather one of perspective

people I think - often don't know where they are coming from - or where they are

from the inside an act will be regarded as intentional - mind directed - you might say

the same act from an observer's point of view will be a surface event

OK - this we know

consciousness sees out
consciousness see in

consciousness is thus at the centre

an internal perspective - an external perspective

it's how you look

now the question will be - OK - how then to characterize the act in itself?

putting aside perspective - is it a mental event - a physical event?

an internal act that expresses itself on the surface

a surface act that - you would think under normal circumstances has a mental
co-relate

the point I wish to make here is that the act in itself - cannot be characterized

cannot be characterized as mental

cannot be characterized as physical

there is no 'in itself ' perspective

such a position is really - strictly speaking without perspective

or you may wish to go the way of Spinoza -

and postulate a sub specie aeternitatis point of view

yes - very well

but that there is no such point of view

no such perspective

the fact is the act in itself is without character

the human being - as a unified entity -

a person as Strawson put it - is in the same boat

my argument is that mental and physical predicates only apply - perspectively

that is from an internal point of view -

from a surface point of view -

the holistic vision is not possible

I mean it is a great argument for God

but that's what it is

it is to attempt to - or to believe one can - step out and look back

it's really a trick of consciousness

an undisciplined and misapplied use of the reflective operation

that is consciousness

from the point of view of no perspective - i.e. the thing in itself -
an entity - any entity is unknown

this is an analytic argument really

but it is not trivial

we see the inside of things (ourselves)

the surface of things - ourselves and the world

we look both ways

we do not see - cannot see from the top as it were

that is there is no such knowledge that can hold the inside and the outside
of an entity in one perspective

if we have grounds for unity - for holism - for oneness -

they are not based on seeing

our seeing is two dimensional

but once this is seen for what it is it

we may quite easily say - assume

that from whatever point of view

we are looking

at the unknown

that which is the object of the gaze

the gaze in

the gaze out

is in the first instance - what we do not know

be it the inner world or the outer world

our descriptions are descriptions of dimension

and are thus - dimension dependent

this is to say to understand mind and body

one must begin where one is

at the centre

the issue has been mistakenly regarded as one of substance

it is first and foremost a question of ontology

and this is to say a question of the dimensions of the world

you will fail if you think you can find a dimension free description

of the human being

perhaps you are inclined to say there is an essence beyond dimension

OK - but this is to refer to what you cannot know