7.2.07

the question of the senses

our senses give consciousness access to the outside (outside of consciousness) world

to the outside

what is this?

this relationship between consciousness and sense experience?

the inside and the outside

consciousness and the physical world?

this is the question

it is the question of knowledge

the outside is a dimension of the entity

the human being has internal and external dimensions

the totality - the person - if you like or just x -

just is these dimensions

can only be described in terms of these dimensions

the entity as such is best regarded as non-conscious and non-physical - as - an
unknown

still the question of the relation of the dimensions

the inside to the outside -

clearly aspects of a logical unity

and this unity - exists in both realms - is both dimensions

is knowledge - knowledge of the outside - the physical world - and knowledge
of the inside - say awareness of ideas

best seen as the point of unity -

that which is - a description of the unity - as unity?

clearly it has - an external / physical aspect

and at the same time - an internal - mental aspect

two aspects to knowledge - of the world - in the world -

it is not a question of interaction

or of one becoming the other

the analysis must be double aspect if it is to be complete?

awareness I argue is an internal property -

we don't observe awareness

(we are aware)

but awareness is partly awareness of the outside

awareness internalizes the outside?

transforms it?

what is the outside - outside of awareness

we can't say

OK - so knowledge is the internal dimension

yes

alright

what of the internalization -

what do we say here?

consciousness and the senses again?

what do we say here?

for clearly the senses

the physical -
the outside -

play a crucial role here

what is it?

what is the relationship?

I want here a non-causal account

for the causal makes no sense

yet it is basically the empiricist and indeed the rationalist approach -

for me it is a question of how to see this matter in terms of an inside / outside
paradigm

there is a third world view - i.e. - Popper

but this again is an interactionist view?

perhaps another tac entirely -

the question - why can't this matter be settled?

the question of mind and body -

this would be to say the matter cannot be resolved - why?

the relation between the inside (consciousness) and the outside (non-consciousness)?

could it just be - that to see - to know the relationship - there would have to
be a third view?

the view of what the relation is -

and we have no third view -

we have only what?

the view from the inside

yes

even so -

we know the senses are integral to the possibility of consciousness

i.e. - with no outside - no inside

that is we cannot in the argument just retreat to the inside - and say that's it -

the inside is knowledge - the outside the object - the point of - knowledge -

that which is known (primarily)

the entity is physical and mental

physical and mental are just dimensions of the entity

we really can't separate the two dimensions - once they are recognized

the entity as a whole ceases to exist -

a body without consciousness is no longer - a person

a mind with no body - is no person

the two dimensions just are the entity

the fact of consciousness - is the source of the knowledge of this

the question I am asking in one sense is -

how does that knowledge come about?

it is to ask for an analysis of the relation of inside to outside

could it be there is nothing to analyze?

that the relation just is the fact of - the nature of the entity

and as to how the inside relates to the outside - and visa versa

if the question - does actually make sense - we can't know the answer

we can only know the relation not how or why

what is the relation between the inside of a box and the outside?


p.s.


we think in terms of the senses as that means by which the physical / outside is
revealed -

but the outside is the revelation in consciousness

any explanation is consciousness' reflection on the revelation

the actual experience occurs - without explanation

it occurs as an unknown

the experience is an experience of unity

reflection divides