this is where we begin:
with consciousness in the world
this I argue is realism plain and simple
the human being as a two dimensional entity
the dimensions are internality and externality
the inside and the outside: mind and matter
mind and matter on this view are not substances - rather dimensions
dimensions of a singularity
how to characterize the unity?
we can only see inside and out -
we can thus only characterize internally and externally
as for the view from above - the third view - the view sub specie aeternitatis - there is
no such perspective
the unity as such is unknown
or the unity above and beyond its dimensions is unknown
OK
still it might be put that we only know this - if we know it - through consciousness
the idea being that internality and externality (mind and matter) are only - and finally
categories of consciousness
if so - the argument goes - all that is presented is an Idealistic picture
that all there is - is consciousness and its characterizations
so what of such an argument - is Idealism unavoidable?
my view is that consciousness recognizes itself as inside -
as inside the non-conscious dimension of the world
so crucial to the recognition of consciousness is a recognition of reality - outside of
consciousness
and the argument is that consciousness would not recognize itself - otherwise
could not distinguish itself - which in fact it clearly does
it distinguishes and defines itself dimensionally
in the absence of this dimensional distinction conscious could not recognize itself
which is to say consciousness would be unaware
that consciousness would not be - consciousness
what can the Idealist say to this -
that this recognition is illusory?
always the question is open - but is this particular question a sensible one?
can consciousness recognize itself as anything other than in the world?
I think not
but of the world?
is not the world only known via consciousness?
yes - quite true
and is what we know of the world only known in terms of consciousness' categories
indeed
nevertheless - the object of consciousness is that which is outside of consciousness
and what can we say of the outside without consciousness?
we cannot say anything
or to be more precise we can only say we do not know - we cannot know
there is no knowledge in the absence of consciousness
a world without consciousness is just that - an unknown and unknowable reality
all knowledge is a function of consciousness
knowledge is the natural expression of consciousness being in the world
consciousness itself - is thus a feature of the world - an attribute of it
which is to say consciousness depends on the world
the world does not depend on consciousness
p.s.
a note on Idealism and Materialism
Idealism amounts to the view that the world is one dimensional - that it has no outside
that the inside is all there is
the question to be asked is - the inside of what?
for on such a view there is no outside dimension
it is clear that you cannot maintain the argument of an inside dimension - of
consciousness - unless you can assert confidently that there corresponds an outside
dimension
with regard to Materialism -
a one dimensional world that is external - and has no internality - is not knowable -
therefore it cannot be asserted in the first place - it is non-sensical
the overall point is - that which is dimensional - has an ontological structure
and the ontological structure of a thing is its logic
it is what makes it what it is
to suggest that you can reduce a two dimensional entity to a one dimensional entity
is to argue illogically
it is to assume you can make something into what it is not
p.p.s.
a note on dimensions
a dimensional analysis of reality or of the mind-body relation is not a substance
analysis
dimensional analysis - is in the philosophical setting - a geometric analysis - let us
term this kind of analysis - meta geometrics
in real or practical terms - it is a structural analysis (a meta structural analysis)
in a 'theoretical' or mathematical sense - it is a formal analysis -
the point is that what exists (substance theories) are irrelevant - and non-productive -
in terms of ontological understanding - substance theories have held up any progress
on the question of the nature of things
first off we need to know what kind of thing we are dealing with - (and substance does
not deal with kind or type - substance theories are weak here because they undercut or
can undercut any formal / structural / meta geometric analysis) - and the way to
approach the problem of the nature of things is to first determine the type of the thing
what kind of thing do we have here?
what is its form - its structure?
a dimensional analysis is the beginning of an answer to these questions
if we ascertain the meta dimensions of a thing - we can begin to understand its nature
and dynamic
the issue is not as Spinoza thought - attributes of substance - it is dimensions of an
unknown unity
where we begin is with consciousness in the world
consciousness as the internal dimensions in a non-conscious external dimension
beyond these dimensions of internality and externality is the unknown
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29.11.07
a two dimensional reality
my argument is this:
consciousness - my consciousness - is awareness - and this awareness is awareness of
itself - of awareness - in the context of non-aware reality
and the important term here is 'in'
and the argument from this -
therefore consciousness is the inside of the world -
it is that dimension of the world
the internality of the world
(I do not think the whole world has an inside
- only 'aspects' - regions of it
I favour a Leibnitzian - monad like theory here)
so the argument is essentially a logical one
that which has an inside by its nature has an outside
(though the reverse does not hold - not all 'outsides' have an inside)
so we begin I suggest with reality -
consciousness in the world
the world as two dimensional
further I do not think this can be explained
it is simply - what is
(the question is correct description)
the reality we begin with
the existential reality
I would suggest this view is better based - this theory of mind / body - than i.e. the
mind-body identity theory of Place and Smart
which rests on a denial of the internal - as a real dimension of reality
and the assumption that all that there is - is surface - and surface explanations are all
that are required or indeed possible
quite a bizarre idea
the language of the inner life is the language of art and under this umbrella I would
include all religious description of the inner life
we may wish to hold that the surface world -
the world of the surface - of matter is determined
it is clear though that the world of consciousness is not
it is essentially - not
hence creativity - art
and what these activities - these descriptions - these languages - address and express is
the indeterminacy of consciousness
so
we have internal logic and 'knowledge' - and external logic and 'knowledge'
reality for human beings is divided
as to the unity - all we have here is the truth - stark and simple - of skepticism
we do not know
there is no unified theory
the idea of - a third position suggests itself here - i.e. the idea of sub specie aeternitatis
- the unified point of view - the point of view of everything -
but in reality there is no such point of view
granted there should be
the fact of a two dimensional reality indicates a unity
a unity we imagine should be seen
but it is not - not revealed
- we can characterize it as the unity that underlies
- or the totality
- etc. etc.
the truth is - it is the unknown
and a corollary of this is that human beings are essentially unknowns
consciousness - my consciousness - is awareness - and this awareness is awareness of
itself - of awareness - in the context of non-aware reality
and the important term here is 'in'
and the argument from this -
therefore consciousness is the inside of the world -
it is that dimension of the world
the internality of the world
(I do not think the whole world has an inside
- only 'aspects' - regions of it
I favour a Leibnitzian - monad like theory here)
so the argument is essentially a logical one
that which has an inside by its nature has an outside
(though the reverse does not hold - not all 'outsides' have an inside)
so we begin I suggest with reality -
consciousness in the world
the world as two dimensional
further I do not think this can be explained
it is simply - what is
(the question is correct description)
the reality we begin with
the existential reality
I would suggest this view is better based - this theory of mind / body - than i.e. the
mind-body identity theory of Place and Smart
which rests on a denial of the internal - as a real dimension of reality
and the assumption that all that there is - is surface - and surface explanations are all
that are required or indeed possible
quite a bizarre idea
the language of the inner life is the language of art and under this umbrella I would
include all religious description of the inner life
we may wish to hold that the surface world -
the world of the surface - of matter is determined
it is clear though that the world of consciousness is not
it is essentially - not
hence creativity - art
and what these activities - these descriptions - these languages - address and express is
the indeterminacy of consciousness
so
we have internal logic and 'knowledge' - and external logic and 'knowledge'
reality for human beings is divided
as to the unity - all we have here is the truth - stark and simple - of skepticism
we do not know
there is no unified theory
the idea of - a third position suggests itself here - i.e. the idea of sub specie aeternitatis
- the unified point of view - the point of view of everything -
but in reality there is no such point of view
granted there should be
the fact of a two dimensional reality indicates a unity
a unity we imagine should be seen
but it is not - not revealed
- we can characterize it as the unity that underlies
- or the totality
- etc. etc.
the truth is - it is the unknown
and a corollary of this is that human beings are essentially unknowns
28.11.07
sensation
sensation as the event that has both a physical and mental dimension / description
are all sensations brain processes?
if we take the view that all sensations have an internal and external expression or
manifestation
then the question becomes what counts as a surface description of a sensation?
if you hold that the brain is the central registry of all physical (surface affects) then as
a mater of definition or logic any affect conscious or not will be describable as a brain
event or process
as I understand it in Descartes' time the human heart had something like this central
role in scientific explanation
so yes a sensation will manifest itself physically - just how that physical manifestation
is described will depend on the state of science - i.e. in seventeenth century science
you get a different account to that of the twentieth century scientific view
the real question in twentieth century philosophy of mind is - is sensation just a brain
process?
my argument is that consciousness is the internal dimension of the human being (and
other conscious entities)
the point being that consciousness is not on the surface of things - it is not a public
observable phenomenon
and that a brain process is a surface event of conscious entities
can we associate a brain process - a surface event with a non-surface - internal event?
are we justified in thinking that a brain process is an expression of a conscious event -
a physical surface manifestation?
a pin prick to the hand - the sensation of pain
a picture of brain activity at the time - let us say a region lights up - that doesn't when
there is no sensation of pain
can we say that the brain activity picture is the sensation?
we can say that the brain activity picture is an expression of the event of the sensation
assuming we are dealing here with a strictly veridical circumstance
and it is not likely to be the only physical expression - in fact most likely the least
noticeable
the brain process in this case is really an indicator of sensation - it points to the fact
and to the awareness - what do we make of this?
is the awareness (in this case of pain) the sensation proper?
at one time I would have said yes
however I am inclined now to give awareness - a similar analysis as that just given of
brain process -
yes awareness is awareness with everything that it involves - but here too it is an
indicator of the event - of the event of the sensation
an internal indicator
it is the way the event manifests internally
just as a physical / surface expression (i.e. brain process) is a way the event manifests
externally
as to the event - the event of the sensation
outside of its internal and external manifestations / description - it is without
characterization
in itself it is without character
its character is its affect
are all sensations brain processes?
if we take the view that all sensations have an internal and external expression or
manifestation
then the question becomes what counts as a surface description of a sensation?
if you hold that the brain is the central registry of all physical (surface affects) then as
a mater of definition or logic any affect conscious or not will be describable as a brain
event or process
as I understand it in Descartes' time the human heart had something like this central
role in scientific explanation
so yes a sensation will manifest itself physically - just how that physical manifestation
is described will depend on the state of science - i.e. in seventeenth century science
you get a different account to that of the twentieth century scientific view
the real question in twentieth century philosophy of mind is - is sensation just a brain
process?
my argument is that consciousness is the internal dimension of the human being (and
other conscious entities)
the point being that consciousness is not on the surface of things - it is not a public
observable phenomenon
and that a brain process is a surface event of conscious entities
can we associate a brain process - a surface event with a non-surface - internal event?
are we justified in thinking that a brain process is an expression of a conscious event -
a physical surface manifestation?
a pin prick to the hand - the sensation of pain
a picture of brain activity at the time - let us say a region lights up - that doesn't when
there is no sensation of pain
can we say that the brain activity picture is the sensation?
we can say that the brain activity picture is an expression of the event of the sensation
assuming we are dealing here with a strictly veridical circumstance
and it is not likely to be the only physical expression - in fact most likely the least
noticeable
the brain process in this case is really an indicator of sensation - it points to the fact
and to the awareness - what do we make of this?
is the awareness (in this case of pain) the sensation proper?
at one time I would have said yes
however I am inclined now to give awareness - a similar analysis as that just given of
brain process -
yes awareness is awareness with everything that it involves - but here too it is an
indicator of the event - of the event of the sensation
an internal indicator
it is the way the event manifests internally
just as a physical / surface expression (i.e. brain process) is a way the event manifests
externally
as to the event - the event of the sensation
outside of its internal and external manifestations / description - it is without
characterization
in itself it is without character
its character is its affect
the argument
the argument is that reality is dimensional
that where mind exists it is two dimensional
and where it doesn't exist it is one dimensional
the existence of mind adds a dimension to reality
mind relative to the physical world - the material world - is internal
where there is mind it is the internal dimension of the entity
i.e. in a human being the body is the external dimension
the mind internal
consciousness is internality - internality is consciousness
if we examine the body at any level i.e. biological, molecular - we are only examining
the surface
the mind on the other hand is pure internality
when we speak of human being as an entity - i.e. 'a human being' - or some such non-
dimensional expression - we are referring to a unity -
that which is the unity of dimensions - is unknown
hence - non-dimensional - essentially non-descriptive terms are used such as 'person'
such an entity can only be understood and hence described - dimensionally
i.e. with human beings we speak of their physical (external) health and their mental
(internal) health -
an event that affects the unity will register on the outside and in the inside
that is an event can have a physical and mental impact
and therefore descriptions
the class of events that this is true of is known events
what of unknown events - i.e. events on the surface (body) that do not register in
consciousness?
these events are purely physical - external until they are made - known to
consciousness
until that is we become aware of them - and I'm thinking here of say the awareness
that comes with a doctor's explanation of the test results - so it's not immediate
conscious awareness
all conscious events - internal events - will have some physical (external) co-relate
hence it is possible in principle to identify the fact of thought in body (surface)
activity
that where mind exists it is two dimensional
and where it doesn't exist it is one dimensional
the existence of mind adds a dimension to reality
mind relative to the physical world - the material world - is internal
where there is mind it is the internal dimension of the entity
i.e. in a human being the body is the external dimension
the mind internal
consciousness is internality - internality is consciousness
if we examine the body at any level i.e. biological, molecular - we are only examining
the surface
the mind on the other hand is pure internality
when we speak of human being as an entity - i.e. 'a human being' - or some such non-
dimensional expression - we are referring to a unity -
that which is the unity of dimensions - is unknown
hence - non-dimensional - essentially non-descriptive terms are used such as 'person'
such an entity can only be understood and hence described - dimensionally
i.e. with human beings we speak of their physical (external) health and their mental
(internal) health -
an event that affects the unity will register on the outside and in the inside
that is an event can have a physical and mental impact
and therefore descriptions
the class of events that this is true of is known events
what of unknown events - i.e. events on the surface (body) that do not register in
consciousness?
these events are purely physical - external until they are made - known to
consciousness
until that is we become aware of them - and I'm thinking here of say the awareness
that comes with a doctor's explanation of the test results - so it's not immediate
conscious awareness
all conscious events - internal events - will have some physical (external) co-relate
hence it is possible in principle to identify the fact of thought in body (surface)
activity
24.11.07
consciousness describes
consciousness describes
describes what is presented to it
and what is presented to it?
it describes itself - and the world -
the world outside itself
consciousness describes
'what is presented to consciousness - to 'itself''
is a description
'the world outside itself'
is a description
the terms of consciousness' descriptions are in the first place - substantial
consciousness describes itself as 'consciousness', 'mind' etc.
consciousness describes what it is not - 'the world' - 'matter', 'physical' etc.
these are descriptions
the essence of consciousness is description
a description must distinguish itself - from other descriptions
and of the object of description?
is it then independent of description?
and is this a reasonable question?
or is it rather that what is there - is so because it is described?
the description gives substance - is the substance
the act of describing
as the existential act?
conscious describes
what is described ultimately is the act(s) of consciousness
consciousness describes itself as in the world -
the world is a description necessary for consciousness
without the world-description consciousness could not distinguish itself
therefore
no primary description would be possible
for all description depends on distinction
and a primary - fundamental distinction is between the description and its object
consciousness projects an object in description
either itself or what it is not
and here we leave substance - for p or -p is essentially a distinction of logic
I describe
therefore
'I am' is a description
p.s.
what I am getting here is that description (however you 'describe' it) is the action of
consciousness
subjectivity and objectivity - idealism and materialism etc. - on this view are
categories of description
the essence of description itself - outside itself as it were - is unknown
cannot be described
there is no place outside of description - in a metaphysical sense
the argument is that the categories of internality and externality are in the first place
descriptions of the unknown
the unknown is fundamental -
its primary description is consciousness in the world
this is to focus on consciousness as act
and the act - every act - I would say - as ultimately a description
consciousness describes itself - describes description
this is where the illogical comes into play in human experience
it is its origin
the act of describing - underpinning the descriptive / conscious act is absurd
but only in terms of logic
in terms of need - need to defend against the unknown - the horror of it
a necessity
describes what is presented to it
and what is presented to it?
it describes itself - and the world -
the world outside itself
consciousness describes
'what is presented to consciousness - to 'itself''
is a description
'the world outside itself'
is a description
the terms of consciousness' descriptions are in the first place - substantial
consciousness describes itself as 'consciousness', 'mind' etc.
consciousness describes what it is not - 'the world' - 'matter', 'physical' etc.
these are descriptions
the essence of consciousness is description
a description must distinguish itself - from other descriptions
and of the object of description?
is it then independent of description?
and is this a reasonable question?
or is it rather that what is there - is so because it is described?
the description gives substance - is the substance
the act of describing
as the existential act?
conscious describes
what is described ultimately is the act(s) of consciousness
consciousness describes itself as in the world -
the world is a description necessary for consciousness
without the world-description consciousness could not distinguish itself
therefore
no primary description would be possible
for all description depends on distinction
and a primary - fundamental distinction is between the description and its object
consciousness projects an object in description
either itself or what it is not
and here we leave substance - for p or -p is essentially a distinction of logic
I describe
therefore
'I am' is a description
p.s.
what I am getting here is that description (however you 'describe' it) is the action of
consciousness
subjectivity and objectivity - idealism and materialism etc. - on this view are
categories of description
the essence of description itself - outside itself as it were - is unknown
cannot be described
there is no place outside of description - in a metaphysical sense
the argument is that the categories of internality and externality are in the first place
descriptions of the unknown
the unknown is fundamental -
its primary description is consciousness in the world
this is to focus on consciousness as act
and the act - every act - I would say - as ultimately a description
consciousness describes itself - describes description
this is where the illogical comes into play in human experience
it is its origin
the act of describing - underpinning the descriptive / conscious act is absurd
but only in terms of logic
in terms of need - need to defend against the unknown - the horror of it
a necessity
mind and matter
mind in matter
at least in some forms of matter
the relation between the two?
awareness is mind
I don't think it make any sense to speak of mind as in any sense un-aware - like i.e. the
Freudians suggest
mind is awareness
OK
internal /external dimensions of the human being
will a physical effect on the body have a result in consciousness?
a mental event have a physical description?
my thinking is that certain events have both a physical and mental description
any physical event that is made conscious - has a mental description
and mental events - that is conscious events -
a physical description?
yes
always
so my focus is events - kinds of events
we can speculate that there are events in space / time that no consciousness is aware of
but any event that is apprehended by consciousness has a mental description
so any conscious event has a physical description
any internal event an external correlate
yes
so the event in itself?
outside of consciousness - an unknown
in terms of consciousness - it has - as a matter of fact - a double aspect - an internal
(conscious) description - an external - physical description
there is on this account no question of the relation of mind and matter - mind and
body
rather singular events that have dual descriptions
inside and out?
the entity with these dimensions - has two descriptions - in terms of its attributes
a singularity - the entity - independent of its dimensions -
there just is no account
no description
the unity that the attributes express - is what?
a logical unity
that which enables the possibility of the attributes
(and hence - descriptions)
logical in the sense that it must be presumed - for what is - to be
we are dealing ultimately with metaphysical facts
that in themselves have no explanation
at least in some forms of matter
the relation between the two?
awareness is mind
I don't think it make any sense to speak of mind as in any sense un-aware - like i.e. the
Freudians suggest
mind is awareness
OK
internal /external dimensions of the human being
will a physical effect on the body have a result in consciousness?
a mental event have a physical description?
my thinking is that certain events have both a physical and mental description
any physical event that is made conscious - has a mental description
and mental events - that is conscious events -
a physical description?
yes
always
so my focus is events - kinds of events
we can speculate that there are events in space / time that no consciousness is aware of
but any event that is apprehended by consciousness has a mental description
so any conscious event has a physical description
any internal event an external correlate
yes
so the event in itself?
outside of consciousness - an unknown
in terms of consciousness - it has - as a matter of fact - a double aspect - an internal
(conscious) description - an external - physical description
there is on this account no question of the relation of mind and matter - mind and
body
rather singular events that have dual descriptions
inside and out?
the entity with these dimensions - has two descriptions - in terms of its attributes
a singularity - the entity - independent of its dimensions -
there just is no account
no description
the unity that the attributes express - is what?
a logical unity
that which enables the possibility of the attributes
(and hence - descriptions)
logical in the sense that it must be presumed - for what is - to be
we are dealing ultimately with metaphysical facts
that in themselves have no explanation
22.11.07
Descartes: infinity substance God and the unknown
'We will thus never hamper ourselves with disputes about the infinite, since it is
absurd that we who are finite should undertake to decide anything regarding it, and by
this means, in trying to comprehend it, so to speak regard it as finite. That is why we
do not care to reply to those who demand whether the half of an infinite line is
infinite, and whether an infinite number is even or odd and so on, because it is only
those who imagine their mind to be infinite who appear to find it necessary to
investigate such questions. And for our part, while we regard things in which, in a
certain sense, we observe no limits, we shall not for all that state that they are infinite,
but merely hold them to be indefinite. Thus because we cannot imagine an exception
so great that we cannot at the same time conceive that there may be one yet greater,
we shall say that the magnitude of possible things is indefinite. And because we
cannot divide a body into parts which are so small that each cannot be divided into
others yet smaller, we shall consider that the quantity may be divided into parts whose
number is indefinite. And because we cannot imagine so many stars that it is
impossible for God to create more, we shall suppose the number to be indefinite, and
so in other cases.
And we shall name things "indefinite" rather than "infinite" in order to reserve to God
the name infinite, first of all because in Him alone we observe no limitation whatever,
and because we are quite certain that He can have none, and in the second place in
regard to other things, because we do not in the same way positively understand them
to be in every part unlimited, but merely negatively admit that their limits, if they
exist, cannot be discovered by us.'
- Descartes.
(From Principles XXVI and XXVII of the First Part of the Principles of Philosophy,
trans. Haldane and Ross. Cambridge 1911)
Commentary:
the idea of the infinite only makes any logical sense as a negative concept - that which
is not finite
Descartes wants to apply these concepts - finite and infinite to substances
a finite substance that which has limits - an infinite that which does not have limits
so to substance -
that which is before its attributes - before its presentation - the 'ground' of existence
or indeed as some have held - existence itself
what is clear is that substance is an abstraction
and an abstraction that is has been seen to perform certain philosophical functions -
i.e. to give a sense of metaphysical coherence in the midst of change - to be a 'logical
ground' to perceived attributes i.e. mind and matter - etc.
what I would argue is that the concept of substance is without substance-
that substance is not the stuff of the universe - but rather that it is an organizational or
operational principle
and one that is a natural result of the relation of the conscious to the non-conscious
world
consciousness operates with such a principle in order to function
so what you have with the idea of substance is an organizational principle designed to
give some coherence to the conscious world
it is the idea of unity - of oneness - and it seems to be essential to our functioning as
human animals
it might be asked - well what is being organized when such a concept or principle is
used?
that is if we are not going to use the term 'substance' for that which is being operated
on - what do we call it?
language is a platform of description
as language users we operate on that platform - and the platform of language is very
rich an complex
so we have many and diverse 'descriptions' of the world and our presence in the world
there is no one account
as to what underlies all accounts - what is essential?
the fact of the reality of the diversity points to one thing - and that is that we don't
know
so the world as given - prior to language if you like - is unknown
and it is to this unknown that we bring consciousness
which is to say consciousness makes the unknown - known
and so for me - Descates' substance is the unknown
once this is understood and grasped - the question - is substance finite or infinite? - is
seen in its correct light -
it is not a sensible question
that is it makes no sense to ask is the unknown finite or infinite?
the unknown is just that - unknown
All of Descartes' discussion here is infected with his notion of substance -
but he nevertheless makes an interesting distinction between the infinite and the
indefinite - and he does this really to reserve the infinite for God
he sill talks in terms of substance - i.e. 'indefinite things' - and this is a shame because
if he saw the matter in the operational sense I have proposed - there would be some
conceptual movement at the station
the dividing of a line i.e. is the repetition of an operation - now the example of the line
just points to the fact that there are indeed repeatable operations - or repeatable acts
and yes they are the kind of act that can go on indefinitely
this does raise the question - well what act is not repeatable indefinitely?
and by 'act' here I mean conscious act -
to cut to the chase - there are certain operations that require repetitive acts
so the question really is - in what operational setting does indefinite repetition make
sense?
thankfully not too many and not for long
we must also realize that a human being is not capable strictly speaking of indefinite
acts of any kind - in the sense of endless
it is better here to speak of repetitive acts and repetition
yes the idea of 'God' as the infinite - as that which is not finite -
is really just a trick - a misuse of logic
every proposition can be negated
we can say that that which is not finite is infinite
it does not follow at all that the term 'infinite' here actually refers to anything
the application of the negation sign to a proposition does not create an alternative
reality
what it does (in my view) is point to the non-utility of the proposition under
consideration - that's if it is correctly used
we can of course have great fun with negation sign - we can make all kinds of realities
if we think it signifies substance
substance as I have pointed out is not the issue - the issue finally is function
and the question for us always with our concepts is - what is the appropriate context
for the use of this concept?
in what context is it designed to function?
absurd that we who are finite should undertake to decide anything regarding it, and by
this means, in trying to comprehend it, so to speak regard it as finite. That is why we
do not care to reply to those who demand whether the half of an infinite line is
infinite, and whether an infinite number is even or odd and so on, because it is only
those who imagine their mind to be infinite who appear to find it necessary to
investigate such questions. And for our part, while we regard things in which, in a
certain sense, we observe no limits, we shall not for all that state that they are infinite,
but merely hold them to be indefinite. Thus because we cannot imagine an exception
so great that we cannot at the same time conceive that there may be one yet greater,
we shall say that the magnitude of possible things is indefinite. And because we
cannot divide a body into parts which are so small that each cannot be divided into
others yet smaller, we shall consider that the quantity may be divided into parts whose
number is indefinite. And because we cannot imagine so many stars that it is
impossible for God to create more, we shall suppose the number to be indefinite, and
so in other cases.
And we shall name things "indefinite" rather than "infinite" in order to reserve to God
the name infinite, first of all because in Him alone we observe no limitation whatever,
and because we are quite certain that He can have none, and in the second place in
regard to other things, because we do not in the same way positively understand them
to be in every part unlimited, but merely negatively admit that their limits, if they
exist, cannot be discovered by us.'
- Descartes.
(From Principles XXVI and XXVII of the First Part of the Principles of Philosophy,
trans. Haldane and Ross. Cambridge 1911)
Commentary:
the idea of the infinite only makes any logical sense as a negative concept - that which
is not finite
Descartes wants to apply these concepts - finite and infinite to substances
a finite substance that which has limits - an infinite that which does not have limits
so to substance -
that which is before its attributes - before its presentation - the 'ground' of existence
or indeed as some have held - existence itself
what is clear is that substance is an abstraction
and an abstraction that is has been seen to perform certain philosophical functions -
i.e. to give a sense of metaphysical coherence in the midst of change - to be a 'logical
ground' to perceived attributes i.e. mind and matter - etc.
what I would argue is that the concept of substance is without substance-
that substance is not the stuff of the universe - but rather that it is an organizational or
operational principle
and one that is a natural result of the relation of the conscious to the non-conscious
world
consciousness operates with such a principle in order to function
so what you have with the idea of substance is an organizational principle designed to
give some coherence to the conscious world
it is the idea of unity - of oneness - and it seems to be essential to our functioning as
human animals
it might be asked - well what is being organized when such a concept or principle is
used?
that is if we are not going to use the term 'substance' for that which is being operated
on - what do we call it?
language is a platform of description
as language users we operate on that platform - and the platform of language is very
rich an complex
so we have many and diverse 'descriptions' of the world and our presence in the world
there is no one account
as to what underlies all accounts - what is essential?
the fact of the reality of the diversity points to one thing - and that is that we don't
know
so the world as given - prior to language if you like - is unknown
and it is to this unknown that we bring consciousness
which is to say consciousness makes the unknown - known
and so for me - Descates' substance is the unknown
once this is understood and grasped - the question - is substance finite or infinite? - is
seen in its correct light -
it is not a sensible question
that is it makes no sense to ask is the unknown finite or infinite?
the unknown is just that - unknown
All of Descartes' discussion here is infected with his notion of substance -
but he nevertheless makes an interesting distinction between the infinite and the
indefinite - and he does this really to reserve the infinite for God
he sill talks in terms of substance - i.e. 'indefinite things' - and this is a shame because
if he saw the matter in the operational sense I have proposed - there would be some
conceptual movement at the station
the dividing of a line i.e. is the repetition of an operation - now the example of the line
just points to the fact that there are indeed repeatable operations - or repeatable acts
and yes they are the kind of act that can go on indefinitely
this does raise the question - well what act is not repeatable indefinitely?
and by 'act' here I mean conscious act -
to cut to the chase - there are certain operations that require repetitive acts
so the question really is - in what operational setting does indefinite repetition make
sense?
thankfully not too many and not for long
we must also realize that a human being is not capable strictly speaking of indefinite
acts of any kind - in the sense of endless
it is better here to speak of repetitive acts and repetition
yes the idea of 'God' as the infinite - as that which is not finite -
is really just a trick - a misuse of logic
every proposition can be negated
we can say that that which is not finite is infinite
it does not follow at all that the term 'infinite' here actually refers to anything
the application of the negation sign to a proposition does not create an alternative
reality
what it does (in my view) is point to the non-utility of the proposition under
consideration - that's if it is correctly used
we can of course have great fun with negation sign - we can make all kinds of realities
if we think it signifies substance
substance as I have pointed out is not the issue - the issue finally is function
and the question for us always with our concepts is - what is the appropriate context
for the use of this concept?
in what context is it designed to function?
2.11.07
consciousness and its display
we begin in awareness with a knowledge of dimension
our awareness is of internality - and of externality
it is an awareness that manifests as logic - that which is - that which is not
this reality of awareness in the world - of internality and externality is the foundation
of logic - it is the ground on which all thinking is based
this is the reality of consciousness
awareness of awareness and awareness of what is outside of awareness
that consciousness is 'aware of itself' - is not a relation internal to consciousness
awareness just is this luminosity - it is of the nature of the thing - or more precisely
the reality of the dimension
internality is awareness
awareness is 'self-awareness'
that is all consciousness is self-consciousness
our language is essentially a tool for dealing with the external reality - and so its
fundamental structure is subject / object
when we come to consciousness - when we come to the internal reality - we find that
the object language does not fit
we need a language - if we are to explain consciousness as we do external objects -
that makes sense of a subject holding itself as object
and so this is the initial problem - the object language cannot be used in this context
really this just points to the fact that the internal dimension will not be elucidated by
external means - in external language
so at this point we are best to drop the idea altogether - object language or subject /
object language will not do the job -
but this is not a drama -
we cannot put prose to the service of consciousness -
but we can and do call on poetry
and poetry is just that 'misuse of object language' that will enable us to have a sense -
an 'account' of the internal
poetry in whatever form - in language - art - music - dance
poetry displays awareness
and at this point we realize there is no explanation
there is just display
and the possibilities of display are endless
poetry is the language of consciousness
finally consciousness is never authentically revealed in an external form
poetry is a corruption of the prosaic - of the subject / object language
a necessary one because we do need to display awareness
and there are indeed many reasons for this - but the essential enduring reason is the
need for delight
however the metaphysical fact is that awareness is essentially - internal -
and so essentially unrevealed
the poetry of the unrevealed is the essence of mysticism
there are those who prefer to direct their gaze inwards rather than outwards
those who prefer an internal focus rather than the external focus
here is theorigin of religious experience - the poetry of the internal
what is I think is clear is that neither perspective - the internal or the external is in
itself complete
the essential unity that either perspective presupposes is unknown
our awareness is of internality - and of externality
it is an awareness that manifests as logic - that which is - that which is not
this reality of awareness in the world - of internality and externality is the foundation
of logic - it is the ground on which all thinking is based
this is the reality of consciousness
awareness of awareness and awareness of what is outside of awareness
that consciousness is 'aware of itself' - is not a relation internal to consciousness
awareness just is this luminosity - it is of the nature of the thing - or more precisely
the reality of the dimension
internality is awareness
awareness is 'self-awareness'
that is all consciousness is self-consciousness
our language is essentially a tool for dealing with the external reality - and so its
fundamental structure is subject / object
when we come to consciousness - when we come to the internal reality - we find that
the object language does not fit
we need a language - if we are to explain consciousness as we do external objects -
that makes sense of a subject holding itself as object
and so this is the initial problem - the object language cannot be used in this context
really this just points to the fact that the internal dimension will not be elucidated by
external means - in external language
so at this point we are best to drop the idea altogether - object language or subject /
object language will not do the job -
but this is not a drama -
we cannot put prose to the service of consciousness -
but we can and do call on poetry
and poetry is just that 'misuse of object language' that will enable us to have a sense -
an 'account' of the internal
poetry in whatever form - in language - art - music - dance
poetry displays awareness
and at this point we realize there is no explanation
there is just display
and the possibilities of display are endless
poetry is the language of consciousness
finally consciousness is never authentically revealed in an external form
poetry is a corruption of the prosaic - of the subject / object language
a necessary one because we do need to display awareness
and there are indeed many reasons for this - but the essential enduring reason is the
need for delight
however the metaphysical fact is that awareness is essentially - internal -
and so essentially unrevealed
the poetry of the unrevealed is the essence of mysticism
there are those who prefer to direct their gaze inwards rather than outwards
those who prefer an internal focus rather than the external focus
here is theorigin of religious experience - the poetry of the internal
what is I think is clear is that neither perspective - the internal or the external is in
itself complete
the essential unity that either perspective presupposes is unknown
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