the mind as the idea of the mind?
this is OK
the issue is -
is the idea something had
if had - it is known - that it is had -
so -
which is -
presumably - the idea of - having and idea -
and is this too - had?
the point is - ideas are not enough to establish mind
mind as self-consciousness
just ideas -
leads to an infinite regress
perhaps -
this would suit Spinoza
but the infinite regress occurs
because - in such an argument -
there is no mind
- no foundation to ideas
ironically no substance to it
- on such a view there is no account of the observer
simply the order and succession of ideas
OK some modern objectivists would like this -
but it leaves a hole
perhaps it's the problem of taking the objectivity
of science too seriously
thinking the objective perspective
is all there is to it
it's too one dimensional
Spinoza - it seems has objectified - ideas
given a 'scientific' account
much to be said for it
but the real problem of mind is not
to my mind -
is not the relation of mind to body
it is rather the problem of the relation of mind to mind
this is the problem of consciousness
mind and body - a side issue