23.6.06

the third man fallacy

for Spinoza

the attributes of extension and thought

can be regarded as separate

and yet identical

the mind is the idea of the body

the body - the mind as extended

so one is the other in a different form

but to say this - to visualize it - to understand it

you need to be able to see both

to speak of both mind and matter - objectively -

where does this objectivity come from?

how is it possible?

this is what I shall call the fallacy of the third man

the idea that there is a third position -
that is objective to mind and body

that is outside of mind and body

a vantage point

a third perspective

Spinoza's metaphysics depends on this possibility

at best it is a conception - (that does not know itself)

an idea -

but when you understand what it is supposed to do

- to be

it is a position - outside of - reality -

it is a position that in Spinoza's terms is not that
of the body or that of the mind

rather - that of -

of what?

as I said in the previous post - Spinoza didn't shrink
from the issue -

for him the answer is God - is substance

OK - very well

but my argument is that such is not a position we can
have or adopt - in Spinoza's form or any other

and it is in one form or another an argument in Western
philosophy that is the source of much error