9.3.08

Spinoza on mind V

my argument of the last post was that all we really get from Spinoza in relation to the
nature of mind is its assertion

back tracking it to God appears to give it some flesh - but it is a back tracking to the
unknown

the mind is idea - and Spinoza has precious little really to say about this

we know the object of the mind is the body

the mind is its idea -

and even though we have this tight fit of mind and body - there is from Spinoza no
sense of the internality of mind

in fact you could very well ask of Spinoza - where is it?

his answer is going to be that it is substance viewed under the attribute of thought

and his idea here is that substance or its modifications is just what is

and we can regard it as either thought or extension

in fact there is technically no difference - it is just a matter of how you read what is
before you

as to substance - independent of these attributes - substance in itself is infinite

this idea of substance I have argued in fact cannot be conceived - it is not a conception
- for a conception has form - infinity does not

so what we are actually talking about here is the unknown

Spinoza calls it God

mind though is an attribute of this God

that is it is a perceived essence

that is to say it is a conceived essence

so mind logically speaking pre-dates substance

for without mind there is no such conception

and this conception is interesting - it is supposed to go beyond - outside of the
conceiving mind - and yet include the conceiving mind

so the argument we have is that the mind in conceiving substance conceives itself -
and everything that it is not

this conception of itself is what?

the mind's identification of itself as an essence of substance

so at the very start mind conceives mind

that is for Spinoza self-consciousness is not a discovery

for mind to identify itself as an essence of substance

it must already have identified itself -

as - mind - what it is

OK -

so what does this amount to?

the idea that the beginning of any awareness is the awareness of self

- is self-consciousness -

the mind is aware of itself

when we think of awareness of that which is outside of mind - we think of a relation
of mind to object - or in Spinoza's terms idea to object

this occurs because the object of awareness is outside of mind

but what of the case when the object is inside - is mind

can we distinguish awareness and awareness of awareness?

can you be aware and not aware that you are aware?

I don't mean in practice - as in being absent minded - but I mean in principle?

I think not

it strikes me that the nature of awareness - of human awareness is that it - for want of
a better phrase - holds itself as object

this is to say there is no difference between awareness and self awareness

human consciousness is the awareness of awareness

so the mind is that which holds itself as subject and object

and the collapse of subject and object into a unity - just is awareness

and perhaps this awareness is not awareness of

it is just awareness

when we introduce object we are talking about something other than mind

so subjectivity is awareness without an object

Spinoza made this point

and thus it can only be awareness of the subject

perhaps the term to use is 'reflective' -

awareness is just reflecting on -

be it that which is internal - or that which is not - that which is external

in this case the object of awareness has no particular ontological status

it is just 'that'

and reflection can turn inward - or outward -

if it turns inward it is just the focus or the knowledge of awareness

of the fact of awareness

if outward it - it is the focus on the non-aware - that which it isn't

so awareness is the kind of thing that turns in on itself

we need a kind of meta-geometry here

it is a form - the internal is a form that can explore itself

and this distinguishes it from the external - the external is linear - it has no reflective
dimension

perhaps we can just say the mind conceives - and to conceive it must have a
conception of itself -

otherwise it has no concept of that which it is not - which is the primary object of
conception

and in that case it could not conceive

so on this view self-consciousness is a logically necessary condition for knowledge

if you have knowledge - you have self-consciousness